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Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
Is there an age limit for runners<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Otaku are like kids<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
Aren't any Otaku anymore<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
Story radios<br />
Reasons*<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself.<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
How old, and what metatype?<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
10 elf<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
>10 year old shadowrunner<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Oh jeeeeez<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
I would say a no till like<br />
16<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character?<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
If she dies.<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
No other runners will trust her<br />
No fixer will hire her<br />
That's not really going to work<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
and how is she an "Established Runner"<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
I can age her up<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Unless shes a street level runner<br />
16 minimum<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
age her up to 18<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness<br />
<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
Is there an age limit for runners<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Otaku are like kids<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
Aren't any Otaku anymore<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
Story radios<br />
Reasons*<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself.<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
How old, and what metatype?<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
10 elf<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
>10 year old shadowrunner<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Oh jeeeeez<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
I would say a no till like<br />
16<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character?<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
If she dies.<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
No other runners will trust her<br />
No fixer will hire her<br />
That's not really going to work<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
and how is she an "Established Runner"<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
I can age her up<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Unless shes a street level runner<br />
16 minimum<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
age her up to 18<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness<br />
<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
Is there an age limit for runners<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Otaku are like kids<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
Aren't any Otaku anymore<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
Story radios<br />
Reasons*<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself.<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
How old, and what metatype?<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
10 elf<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
>10 year old shadowrunner<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Oh jeeeeez<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
I would say a no till like<br />
16<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character?<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
If she dies.<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
No other runners will trust her<br />
No fixer will hire her<br />
That's not really going to work<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
and how is she an "Established Runner"<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
I can age her up<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Unless shes a street level runner<br />
16 minimum<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
age her up to 18<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness<br />
<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
Elves age slower than humans, 18 is good<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
But still<br />
That might make it worse<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
Well she was abandoned due to her "friends"<br />
AdventureMoose (T-Bone)02/05/2018<br />
If I wanted to make a private contact rating 9 like I mentioned to you sad, would that be cool or nah<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
There's not much worse than as a GM justifying why all these adult professionals have hired a child<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Unless they are incredibly desperate<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
old enough to do the job<br />
only qualification that matters<br />
deckers tend to start off super fucking young<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
They have the skillset to do the job a fuckton of spirit friends and the ability to face like a boss<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
orks can fight and kill people at the age of 9<br />
just physically<br />
people grow up very fast in a dystopian universe and runners are the best example of this<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
Yes<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
character is a black magic aspected conjuror<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
But as a gm I’d be very uncomfortable describing anything dystopian happening to a 10 year old<br />
Voro, Caustic Eximus02/05/2018<br />
orks are narrowly postpubescent at 10<br />
elves decidedly are not<br />
<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
elves take like 24 years iirc to properly mature yeah<br />
its interesting<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
I'm going to take issue with a 10 year old elf<br />
A 10 year old ork? Maybe, but an elf? No<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
This is entering animu levels of shes actually 1,000 years old<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
eh<br />
I don't have a issue with the base idea but people make it weird a lot of the time.<br />
Ill have some kids die on my table<br />
for physical jobs being 10 is out of it but I don't have issues with 10 year old wiz deckers<br />
because that is just kind of a thing in the setting<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
But for a mage, ehhhhh<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
mage it depends on when they awakened<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
I don't know how a 10 year old is going to have 8 charisma<br />
Borogove (Fischer)02/05/2018<br />
Puppy Eyes.<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
Plenty of them can have force of personality<br />
Borogove (Fischer)02/05/2018<br />
But Mooooooom<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
what gets their social dice pools is being a kid<br />
that is some social penalties for sure<br />
what is weird is being black magic and 10<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
The Haven is set up for established runners who have proved themselves, I don't know how a 10 year old is going to do that<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
im perfectly willing to make her 16<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
I'm gonna say it here<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
there you go<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
if I need to RP some lecherous street ganger eyeing up a 10 year old<br />
...-_-<br />
<br />
<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
gangers have families too<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
18 please, that's all I ask, if we're going by Evo standards<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
16 is fine<br />
imo<br />
but I dunno<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
I'm going to say 18<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
Runners are a type of people that imo live hard and fast. most of them are out of the game by their 30s<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
can we just say, for the sake of sanity<br />
that all runners that join Haven are legally adults<br />
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018<br />
16 could be explained as a fresh faced recruit who lived a hard life<br />
A la vietnam<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
well so its weird<br />
and depends on the role and situation<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
this is a runner thing wierd is a monday<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
deckers and technos are very likely to start young, and for a while a good chunk of them were just legit kids because people needed otakus back in the day<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
But for a lot of them, the rest of the team never saw them, they will see the mage however<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
her role will be Face and Using her spirits for tasks. she was abandoned because she couldnt control them when she was emotional<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
mages the real question is why you aren't in a wizgang tbh<br />
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018<br />
They are also a black mage, which is a pretty sleazy tradition, no offense. A 10 year old black mage is...a little bit creepy.<br />
No offense.<br />
<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
You're going to be facing some pretty horrid social modifers if you're 10<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
yeh to both of those for my opinions<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
no offense taken, she did what she had to to survive hence the tradition<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
mages it depends on how much the runners need a mage<br />
if they don't have a choice kids are kind of a necessary evil because facing magic without magic can cause issues<br />
but<br />
idk<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
can we please not be seriously discussing a 10 year old character?<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
Eh<br />
I mean its cyberpunk man<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
Yeah, I'm going to go talk to council about age limits<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
sure its cyberpunk, we still don't allow Pregnant(edited)<br />
do you want to RP an abortion?<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
I mean<br />
different thing first off<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
its about themes<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
that is what is I believe called a strawman<br />
SadSuspenders02/05/2018<br />
At the end of the day, I make the decision here, and I'm going to say no<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
if it makes ya'll uncomfortable itll be built into her backstory and she is 18<br />
SCKoNi02/05/2018<br />
it ain't a strawman, I'm just using hyperbole to make a point about relevenat themes on an LC<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
I mean<br />
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018<br />
Please drop it guys<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
it technically is but w/e<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
its no big deal<br />
sorry guys<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
My opinion is simply that it fits thematically and that is about it<br />
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018<br />
It is okay Rain, thanks for asking<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
up to players and gms on how it plays out.<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
wasnt trying to start shit i thought the character could be interesting<br />
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018<br />
Axiom, please, just leave it.<br />
It is fine, don't worry rain. Let's just move on.<br />
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018<br />
18 it is though<br />
thanks<br />
new guy02/05/2018<br />
Guess you can't really have dissenting opinions on a hobby. Idk. Tired of that but dropping it.</div>DrBurst