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	~~Miscellaneous Content WIP Edits~~
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/ly1h3u/on_drugs_and_toxins/ drugs and toxins]] (Item 88)
	**It is the stance of ShadowHaven that, mechanically, drugs are not toxins and are not subject to immunity to toxins.
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/mb6can/grapple_guns_and_cyberarms/ Grapple Guns and Cyberarms]] (Item 180)
	**Players may put 30m of microwire in their cyberarms for a cyberware grapple gun and Bionic Commando the world.
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/nlfyxj/computer_illiterate_and_being_a_haven_runner/ Computer Illiterate]] (Item 145)
	**So long as the PC has a story of how they use the electronics while not being able to understand them, a PC may have the Computer Illiterate quality and still be a Haven runner. This can range from your fixer handling these tasks to just paying a street decker 50 nuyen to send a message.
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/qk7d3f/qualifying_for_mundaneonly_options/ Qualifying for Mundane Options]] (Item 27)
	**Characters that have acquired a MAG or RES rating and continue to have any bonuses from the source that gave the MAG or RES rating do not qualify for mundane-only qualities, ascensions, or other options. Characters that previously had a MAG or RES rating and no longer currently have any benefits from the source of that aside from knowledge skills may qualify for mundane-only options, however.
	***Specifically, this means that non-dual-natured infected do not qualify for mundane-only options but a formerly awakened or emerged character who only retains knowledge skills and who has burned completely out would. (Just this specification.)
	*Bilingual
	**This quality can be taken post gen
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/qkze1p/proposal_to_revert_to_raw_attributelinked_skills/ Linked Attributes]] (Item 28)
	**The Council votes to not overturn the ruling that states that the attribute linked to a skill test is whatever attribute currently being rolled on. Thus, the ruling that whatever attribute currently being used for your skill test is the 'linked' attribute shall remain in effect.
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/zj2pmr/hard_nanohives_restock_cost/ Restocking Hard Hives]] (Item 83)
	**Consider the cost to restock Hard Nanohives to be ignored. It comes to about 21 nuyen a run, so whatever.
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/127xb15/cyberlimbs_skin_modification_compatibility/ Cyberlimbs and skin mods]] (Item 98)
	**For the sake of accepting skin modifications, the user should have a meaningful amount of skin left, at least two natural limbs. Torso counts as 2 limbs, head counts as 1, partial limbs count as half.
	**Smartskin cannot go over cyberlimbs.
	**Bone Lacing stacks perfectly fine with cyberlimbs, as a side note.
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/vypg6q/gifted_healer_rework/ Gifted Healer]] (Item 57)
	**Reduce penalties for First Aid and Medicine by 2 (SR5 p. 205-208) and for the Heal spell by 2 from any source other than BGC.
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/qk77j4/beating_addiction/ Beating Addiction]] (Item 24)
	**In order to buy off the Addiction Negative Quality, you must remain off of the drug for (Addiction Rating)/2 runs, rounded up.
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/tfatsy/surge_i_and_surge_ii_unbanned_with_modified/ SURGE I and II unbanned]] (Item 39)
	**Mood Hair should be in SURGE III and not in SURGE II and III.
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/10wpi7c/cosmetic_deltaware_access/ Access to Cosmetic Deltaware]]
	**0 Essence cost cosmetic ware no longer requires 15/30 karma Deltaware Access run reward for Awakened or characters with Regeneration.
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/10wq4ho/no_future_performance_remains_banned/ No Future Performance]] (Item
	**No Future has some methods of earning income on p.60 and p.61. Downtime nuyen earning is heavily curtailed for good reason and will remain banned.
	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/d4tew0/refinement_and_clarification_of_the_wanted/ Wanted Clarifications]]
	**Collecting bounties on teammates during a run is disallowed on ShadowHaven
	**Should a GM organize a private run against a character with wanted where NPC runners would otherwise be used, PC runners may join on that run. The GM should get the informed consent of all players involved and thematics department approval given the often tense and unfair nature of PvP in Shadowrun 5E.
	**GMs should attempt to restrict the impact of wanted to only the wanted PCs, not others on the same team.
	***Contact thematics if you want help with how to shield other players.
	**GMs are highly encouraged to use the wanted quality to complicate runs, as with all negative qualities.
	**Contacts will not aid in the collection of bounties on wanted characters except in extreme, rare situations.
	***Contact thematics if these extreme and rare situations come up.
	**GMs should keep the Haven’s rule on burning edge in mind when handling the wanted quality. The player must remain playable even after capture via our house rules.
	**Players may appeal to the thematics team or council should they feel the awarding of wanted during the course of a run was unwarranted.

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	*GMs are highly encouraged to use the wanted quality to complicate runs, as with all negative qualities.		*GMs are highly encouraged to use the wanted quality to complicate runs, as with all negative qualities.
	*Contacts will not aid in the collection of bounties on wanted characters except in extreme, rare situations.		*Contacts will not aid in the collection of bounties on wanted characters except in extreme, rare situations.
	*Rules for burning edge ~~are~~ in ~~effect~~ when ~~hunters come calling~~.		*Rules for burning edge will be kept in mind when handling the wanted quality.
	*Players may appeal to the thematics team or council should they feel the awarding of wanted during the course of a run was unwarranted.		*Players may appeal to the thematics team or council should they feel the awarding of wanted during the course of a run was unwarranted.

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 *Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/10wq4ho/no_future_performance_remains_banned/ No Future Performance]] (Item
 **No Future has some methods of earning income on p.60 and p.61. Downtime nuyen earning is heavily curtailed for good reason and will remain banned.
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 ====Uneducated====
 *This quality is incompatible with the College Education (RF 145) or the Technical School Education (RF 150) qualities.
 ====Samurai Way Qualities====

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	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/10wpi7c/cosmetic_deltaware_access/ Access to Cosmetic Deltaware]]		*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/10wpi7c/cosmetic_deltaware_access/ Access to Cosmetic Deltaware]]
	**0 Essence cost cosmetic ware no longer requires 15/30 karma Deltaware Access run reward for Awakened or characters with Regeneration.		**0 Essence cost cosmetic ware no longer requires 15/30 karma Deltaware Access run reward for Awakened or characters with Regeneration.
			*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/10wq4ho/no_future_performance_remains_banned/ No Future Performance]] (Item
			**No Future has some methods of earning income on p.60 and p.61. Downtime nuyen earning is heavily curtailed for good reason and will remain banned.


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	*Pharmaceutical Drug Grade (CF 190)		*Pharmaceutical Drug Grade (CF 190)
	*Customizing Drugs (CF 190-192)		*Customizing Drugs (CF 190-192)
			*Performance and downtime money methods (NF 60-61)
	*Forcing another character to take chemicals with no penetration or power during combat is not allowed on the Haven (including by GMs).		*Forcing another character to take chemicals with no penetration or power during combat is not allowed on the Haven (including by GMs).
	*Group Resources (DT 43)		*Group Resources (DT 43)

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	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/tfatsy/surge_i_and_surge_ii_unbanned_with_modified/ SURGE I and II unbanned]] (Item 39)		*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/tfatsy/surge_i_and_surge_ii_unbanned_with_modified/ SURGE I and II unbanned]] (Item 39)
	**Mood Hair should be in SURGE III and not in SURGE II and III.		**Mood Hair should be in SURGE III and not in SURGE II and III.
			*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/10wpi7c/cosmetic_deltaware_access/ Access to Cosmetic Deltaware]]
			**0 Essence cost cosmetic ware no longer requires 15/30 karma Deltaware Access run reward for Awakened or characters with Regeneration.


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	*Body augmentations for the purpose of resisting damage from bone density augmentation or bone lacing are not restricted by augmented maximums.		*Body augmentations for the purpose of resisting damage from bone density augmentation or bone lacing are not restricted by augmented maximums.
	*Characters with the Regeneration power can take geneware via getting access to deltaware clinics, via runs at Thematics approval.		*Characters with the Regeneration power can take geneware via getting access to deltaware clinics, via runs at Thematics approval.

			====Deltaware Access====
			*Awakened and those with Regeneration may not purchase deltaware except as part of rwards given for a specific run.
			*The chance for an Awakened or Emerged character to purchase deltaware may be given as a Run Reward for Semi-Prime or Prime runs. This takes up 15 RVP and must be approved by a member of the Thematics Team.
			*For awakened or emerged PCs with the Regeneration critter power, this takes up 30 RVP and must be approved by a member of the Thematics Team.
			*Cosmetic ware that would cost 0 Essence by house rules does not require a run reward for deltaware access even for Awakened or characters with Regeneration.

	====Tailored Greyware====		====Tailored Greyware====

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	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/qk77j4/beating_addiction/ Beating Addiction]] (Item 24)		*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/qk77j4/beating_addiction/ Beating Addiction]] (Item 24)
	**In order to buy off the Addiction Negative Quality, you must remain off of the drug for (Addiction Rating)/2 runs, rounded up.		**In order to buy off the Addiction Negative Quality, you must remain off of the drug for (Addiction Rating)/2 runs, rounded up.
			*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/tfatsy/surge_i_and_surge_ii_unbanned_with_modified/ SURGE I and II unbanned]] (Item 39)
			**Mood Hair should be in SURGE III and not in SURGE II and III.


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	**Positive metagenetic qualities limited to SURGE III: Arcane Arrester, Bone Spikes, Dermal Alteration (Granite Shell), Glamour, Magic Sense, Metagenetic Improvement (Attribute), Nasty Vibe, Shiva Arms<br>		**Positive metagenetic qualities limited to SURGE III: Arcane Arrester, Bone Spikes, Dermal Alteration (Granite Shell), Glamour, Magic Sense, Metagenetic Improvement (Attribute), Nasty Vibe, Shiva Arms<br>
	**Positive metagenetic qualities limited to SURGE II or SURGE III: Dermal Alteration (Blubber, Rhino Hide), Elongated Limbs, Functional Tail (Balance, Paddle, Prehensile, Thagomizer), Proboscis, Thorns		**Positive metagenetic qualities limited to SURGE II or SURGE III: Dermal Alteration (Blubber, Rhino Hide), Elongated Limbs, Functional Tail (Balance, Paddle, Prehensile, Thagomizer), Proboscis, Thorns
	**Negative metagenetic qualities limited to SURGE III: Astral Hazing, Critter Spook, Third Eye		**Negative metagenetic qualities limited to SURGE III: Astral Hazing, Critter Spook, Mood Hair, Third Eye
	**Negative metagenetic qualities limited to SURGE II or SURGE III: Bioluminescence, Cephalopod Skull, Feathers~~, Mood Hair~~, Scales, Vestigial Tail		**Negative metagenetic qualities limited to SURGE II or SURGE III: Bioluminescence, Cephalopod Skull, Feathers, Scales, Vestigial Tail
	*The Striking Skin Pigmentation quality is incompatible with the Dermal Alteration quality.		*The Striking Skin Pigmentation quality is incompatible with the Dermal Alteration quality.
	*Bioluminescence works with either hair modifications or skin modifications, but not with both at the same time.		*Bioluminescence works with either hair modifications or skin modifications, but not with both at the same time.

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	*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/vypg6q/gifted_healer_rework/ Gifted Healer]] (Item 57)		*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/vypg6q/gifted_healer_rework/ Gifted Healer]] (Item 57)
	**Reduce penalties for First Aid and Medicine by 2 (SR5 p. 205-208) and for the Heal spell by 2 from any source other than BGC.		**Reduce penalties for First Aid and Medicine by 2 (SR5 p. 205-208) and for the Heal spell by 2 from any source other than BGC.
			*Council ruling: [[https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowHavenBBS/comments/qk77j4/beating_addiction/ Beating Addiction]] (Item 24)
			**In order to buy off the Addiction Negative Quality, you must remain off of the drug for (Addiction Rating)/2 runs, rounded up.


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	*If you fail the test, you immediately suffer the effects of a failed addiction test. As it is not an action, you may not Smackdown the test.		*If you fail the test, you immediately suffer the effects of a failed addiction test. As it is not an action, you may not Smackdown the test.
	*Only permanent bonuses to attributes such as those from infected, from ware (e.g. cerebral booster) or those from the quality Cyber-Singularity Seeker can be used for the test. Temporary bonuses to attributes such as those from spells, drugs or ware that can be turned on and off cannot be used for the test.		*Only permanent bonuses to attributes such as those from infected, from ware (e.g. cerebral booster) or those from the quality Cyber-Singularity Seeker can be used for the test. Temporary bonuses to attributes such as those from spells, drugs or ware that can be turned on and off cannot be used for the test.
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			*In order to buy off the Addiction Negative Quality, you must remain off of the drug for (Addiction Rating)/2 runs, rounded up.

	====Stat Changes====		====Stat Changes====