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Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Is there an age limit for runners
Is there an age limit for runners
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Otaku are like kids
Otaku are like kids
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
Aren't any Otaku anymore
Aren't any Otaku anymore
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone
But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why
Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Story radios
Story radios
Reasons*
Reasons*
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever
There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself.
She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself.
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
How old, and what metatype?
How old, and what metatype?
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
10 elf
10 elf
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
>10 year old shadowrunner
>10 year old shadowrunner
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Oh jeeeeez
Oh jeeeeez
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
I would say a no till like
I would say a no till like
16
16
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character?
so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character?
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
If she dies.
If she dies.
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
No other runners will trust her
No other runners will trust her
No fixer will hire her
No fixer will hire her
That's not really going to work
That's not really going to work
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
and how is she an "Established Runner"
and how is she an "Established Runner"
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
I can age her up
I can age her up
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Unless shes a street level runner
Unless shes a street level runner
16 minimum
16 minimum
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
age her up to 18
age her up to 18
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness
Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness


Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Is there an age limit for runners
Is there an age limit for runners
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Otaku are like kids
Otaku are like kids
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
Aren't any Otaku anymore
Aren't any Otaku anymore
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone
But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why
Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Story radios
Story radios
Reasons*
Reasons*
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever
There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself.
She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself.
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
How old, and what metatype?
How old, and what metatype?
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
10 elf
10 elf
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
>10 year old shadowrunner
>10 year old shadowrunner
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Oh jeeeeez
Oh jeeeeez
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
I would say a no till like
I would say a no till like
16
16
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character?
so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character?
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
If she dies.
If she dies.
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
No other runners will trust her
No other runners will trust her
No fixer will hire her
No fixer will hire her
That's not really going to work
That's not really going to work
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
and how is she an "Established Runner"
and how is she an "Established Runner"
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
I can age her up
I can age her up
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Unless shes a street level runner
Unless shes a street level runner
16 minimum
16 minimum
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
age her up to 18
age her up to 18
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness
Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness


Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Is there an age limit for runners
Is there an age limit for runners
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Otaku are like kids
Otaku are like kids
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
Aren't any Otaku anymore
Aren't any Otaku anymore
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone
But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why
Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Story radios
Story radios
Reasons*
Reasons*
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever
There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself.
She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself.
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
How old, and what metatype?
How old, and what metatype?
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
10 elf
10 elf
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
>10 year old shadowrunner
>10 year old shadowrunner
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Oh jeeeeez
Oh jeeeeez
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
I would say a no till like
I would say a no till like
16
16
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character?
so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character?
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
If she dies.
If she dies.
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
No other runners will trust her
No other runners will trust her
No fixer will hire her
No fixer will hire her
That's not really going to work
That's not really going to work
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
and how is she an "Established Runner"
and how is she an "Established Runner"
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
I can age her up
I can age her up
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Unless shes a street level runner
Unless shes a street level runner
16 minimum
16 minimum
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
age her up to 18
age her up to 18
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness
Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness


SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
Elves age slower than humans, 18 is good
Elves age slower than humans, 18 is good
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
But still
But still
That might make it worse
That might make it worse
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Well she was abandoned due to her "friends"
Well she was abandoned due to her "friends"
AdventureMoose (T-Bone)02/05/2018
AdventureMoose (T-Bone)02/05/2018
If I wanted to make a private contact rating 9 like I mentioned to you sad, would that be cool or nah
If I wanted to make a private contact rating 9 like I mentioned to you sad, would that be cool or nah
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
There's not much worse than as a GM justifying why all these adult professionals have hired a child
There's not much worse than as a GM justifying why all these adult professionals have hired a child
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Unless they are incredibly desperate
Unless they are incredibly desperate
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
old enough to do the job
old enough to do the job
only qualification that matters
only qualification that matters
deckers tend to start off super fucking young
deckers tend to start off super fucking young
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
They have the skillset to do the job a fuckton of spirit friends and the ability to face like a boss
They have the skillset to do the job a fuckton of spirit friends and the ability to face like a boss
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
orks can fight and kill people at the age of 9
orks can fight and kill people at the age of 9
just physically
just physically
people grow up very fast in a dystopian universe and runners are the best example of this
people grow up very fast in a dystopian universe and runners are the best example of this
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Yes
Yes
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
character is a black magic aspected conjuror
character is a black magic aspected conjuror
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
But as a gm I’d be very uncomfortable describing anything dystopian happening to a 10 year old
But as a gm I’d be very uncomfortable describing anything dystopian happening to a 10 year old
Voro, Caustic Eximus02/05/2018
Voro, Caustic Eximus02/05/2018
orks are narrowly postpubescent at 10
orks are narrowly postpubescent at 10
elves decidedly are not
elves decidedly are not


new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
elves take like 24 years iirc to properly mature yeah
elves take like 24 years iirc to properly mature yeah
its interesting
its interesting
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
I'm going to take issue with a 10 year old elf
I'm going to take issue with a 10 year old elf
A 10 year old ork? Maybe, but an elf? No
A 10 year old ork? Maybe, but an elf? No
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
This is entering animu levels of shes actually 1,000 years old
This is entering animu levels of shes actually 1,000 years old
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
eh
eh
I don't have a issue with the base idea but people make it weird a lot of the time.
I don't have a issue with the base idea but people make it weird a lot of the time.
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because that is just kind of a thing in the setting
because that is just kind of a thing in the setting
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
But for a mage, ehhhhh
But for a mage, ehhhhh
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
mage it depends on when they awakened
mage it depends on when they awakened
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
I don't know how a 10 year old is going to have 8 charisma
I don't know how a 10 year old is going to have 8 charisma
Borogove (Fischer)02/05/2018
Borogove (Fischer)02/05/2018
Puppy Eyes.
Puppy Eyes.
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
Plenty of them can have force of personality
Plenty of them can have force of personality
Borogove (Fischer)02/05/2018
Borogove (Fischer)02/05/2018
But Mooooooom
But Mooooooom
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
what gets their social dice pools is being a kid
what gets their social dice pools is being a kid
that is some social penalties for sure
that is some social penalties for sure
what is weird is being black magic and 10
what is weird is being black magic and 10
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
The Haven is set up for established runners who have proved themselves, I don't know how a 10 year old is going to do that
The Haven is set up for established runners who have proved themselves, I don't know how a 10 year old is going to do that
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
im perfectly willing to make her 16
im perfectly willing to make her 16
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
I'm gonna say it here
I'm gonna say it here
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
there you go
there you go
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
if I need to RP some lecherous street ganger eyeing up a 10 year old
if I need to RP some lecherous street ganger eyeing up a 10 year old
...-_-
...-_-
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new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
gangers have families too
gangers have families too
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
18 please, that's all I ask, if we're going by Evo standards
18 please, that's all I ask, if we're going by Evo standards
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
16 is fine
16 is fine
imo
imo
but I dunno
but I dunno
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
I'm going to say 18
I'm going to say 18
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
Runners are a type of people that imo live hard and fast. most of them are out of the game by their 30s
Runners are a type of people that imo live hard and fast. most of them are out of the game by their 30s
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
can we just say, for the sake of sanity
can we just say, for the sake of sanity
that all runners that join Haven are legally adults
that all runners that join Haven are legally adults
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
Slayer_Panda02/05/2018
16 could be explained as a fresh faced recruit who lived a hard life
16 could be explained as a fresh faced recruit who lived a hard life
A la vietnam
A la vietnam
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
well so its weird
well so its weird
and depends on the role and situation
and depends on the role and situation
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
this is a runner thing wierd is a monday
this is a runner thing wierd is a monday
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
deckers and technos are very likely to start young, and for a while a good chunk of them were just legit kids because people needed otakus back in the day
deckers and technos are very likely to start young, and for a while a good chunk of them were just legit kids because people needed otakus back in the day
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
But for a lot of them, the rest of the team never saw them, they will see the mage however
But for a lot of them, the rest of the team never saw them, they will see the mage however
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
her role will be Face and Using her spirits for tasks. she was abandoned because she couldnt control them when she was emotional
her role will be Face and Using her spirits for tasks. she was abandoned because she couldnt control them when she was emotional
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
mages the real question is why you aren't in a wizgang tbh
mages the real question is why you aren't in a wizgang tbh
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018
They are also a black mage, which is a pretty sleazy tradition, no offense. A 10 year old black mage is...a little bit creepy.
They are also a black mage, which is a pretty sleazy tradition, no offense. A 10 year old black mage is...a little bit creepy.
No offense.
No offense.


SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
You're going to be facing some pretty horrid social modifers if you're 10
You're going to be facing some pretty horrid social modifers if you're 10
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
yeh to both of those for my opinions
yeh to both of those for my opinions
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
no offense taken, she did what she had to to survive hence the tradition
no offense taken, she did what she had to to survive hence the tradition
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
mages it depends on how much the runners need a mage
mages it depends on how much the runners need a mage
if they don't have a choice kids are kind of a necessary evil because facing magic without magic can cause issues
if they don't have a choice kids are kind of a necessary evil because facing magic without magic can cause issues
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idk
idk
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
can we please not be seriously discussing a 10 year old character?
can we please not be seriously discussing a 10 year old character?
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
Eh
Eh
I mean its cyberpunk man
I mean its cyberpunk man
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
Yeah, I'm going to go talk to council about age limits
Yeah, I'm going to go talk to council about age limits
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
sure its cyberpunk, we still don't allow Pregnant(edited)
sure its cyberpunk, we still don't allow Pregnant(edited)
do you want to RP an abortion?
do you want to RP an abortion?
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
I mean
I mean
different thing first off
different thing first off
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
its about themes
its about themes
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
that is what is I believe called a strawman
that is what is I believe called a strawman
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
SadSuspenders02/05/2018
At the end of the day, I make the decision here, and I'm going to say no
At the end of the day, I make the decision here, and I'm going to say no
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
if it makes ya'll uncomfortable itll be built into her backstory and she is 18
if it makes ya'll uncomfortable itll be built into her backstory and she is 18
SCKoNi02/05/2018
SCKoNi02/05/2018
it ain't a strawman, I'm just using hyperbole to make a point about relevenat themes on an LC
it ain't a strawman, I'm just using hyperbole to make a point about relevenat themes on an LC
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
I mean
I mean
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018
Please drop it guys
Please drop it guys
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
it technically is but w/e
it technically is but w/e
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
its no big deal
its no big deal
sorry guys
sorry guys
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
My opinion is simply that it fits thematically and that is about it
My opinion is simply that it fits thematically and that is about it
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018
It is okay Rain, thanks for asking
It is okay Rain, thanks for asking
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
up to players and gms on how it plays out.
up to players and gms on how it plays out.
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
wasnt trying to start shit i thought the character could be interesting
wasnt trying to start shit i thought the character could be interesting
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018
DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018
Axiom, please, just leave it.
Axiom, please, just leave it.
It is fine, don't worry rain. Let's just move on.
It is fine, don't worry rain. Let's just move on.
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018
18 it is though
18 it is though
thanks
thanks
new guy02/05/2018
new guy02/05/2018
Guess you can't really have dissenting opinions on a hobby. Idk. Tired of that but dropping it.
Guess you can't really have dissenting opinions on a hobby. Idk. Tired of that but dropping it.

Latest revision as of 23:42, 8 September 2018

Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

Is there an age limit for runners Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Otaku are like kids SadSuspenders02/05/2018

Aren't any Otaku anymore Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone SadSuspenders02/05/2018

Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

Story radios Reasons* SadSuspenders02/05/2018

There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself. SadSuspenders02/05/2018

How old, and what metatype? Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

10 elf SCKoNi02/05/2018

>10 year old shadowrunner Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Oh jeeeeez Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

I would say a no till like 16 SCKoNi02/05/2018

so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character? Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

If she dies. SadSuspenders02/05/2018

No other runners will trust her No fixer will hire her That's not really going to work SCKoNi02/05/2018

and how is she an "Established Runner" Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

I can age her up Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Unless shes a street level runner 16 minimum SCKoNi02/05/2018

age her up to 18 Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness

Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

Is there an age limit for runners Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Otaku are like kids SadSuspenders02/05/2018

Aren't any Otaku anymore Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone SadSuspenders02/05/2018

Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

Story radios Reasons* SadSuspenders02/05/2018

There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself. SadSuspenders02/05/2018

How old, and what metatype? Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

10 elf SCKoNi02/05/2018

>10 year old shadowrunner Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Oh jeeeeez Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

I would say a no till like 16 SCKoNi02/05/2018

so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character? Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

If she dies. SadSuspenders02/05/2018

No other runners will trust her No fixer will hire her That's not really going to work SCKoNi02/05/2018

and how is she an "Established Runner" Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

I can age her up Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Unless shes a street level runner 16 minimum SCKoNi02/05/2018

age her up to 18 Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness

Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

Is there an age limit for runners Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Otaku are like kids SadSuspenders02/05/2018

Aren't any Otaku anymore Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

But you get into odd scenarios sending in children to a warzone SadSuspenders02/05/2018

Lorewise, no, but if you're playing a child I'm going to ask why Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

Story radios Reasons* SadSuspenders02/05/2018

There's no shadowrunner license you have to get that requires you to be 16, or whatever Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

She is an abandoned child left to fend for herself. SadSuspenders02/05/2018

How old, and what metatype? Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

10 elf SCKoNi02/05/2018

>10 year old shadowrunner Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Oh jeeeeez Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

I would say a no till like 16 SCKoNi02/05/2018

so you want GMs to RP killing your 10 year old character? Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

If she dies. SadSuspenders02/05/2018

No other runners will trust her No fixer will hire her That's not really going to work SCKoNi02/05/2018

and how is she an "Established Runner" Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

I can age her up Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Unless shes a street level runner 16 minimum SCKoNi02/05/2018

age her up to 18 Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Shes a former child soldier with all the horribleness

SadSuspenders02/05/2018

Elves age slower than humans, 18 is good Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

But still That might make it worse Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

Well she was abandoned due to her "friends" AdventureMoose (T-Bone)02/05/2018

If I wanted to make a private contact rating 9 like I mentioned to you sad, would that be cool or nah SadSuspenders02/05/2018

There's not much worse than as a GM justifying why all these adult professionals have hired a child Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Unless they are incredibly desperate new guy02/05/2018

old enough to do the job only qualification that matters deckers tend to start off super fucking young Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

They have the skillset to do the job a fuckton of spirit friends and the ability to face like a boss new guy02/05/2018

orks can fight and kill people at the age of 9 just physically people grow up very fast in a dystopian universe and runners are the best example of this Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

Yes Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

character is a black magic aspected conjuror Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

But as a gm I’d be very uncomfortable describing anything dystopian happening to a 10 year old Voro, Caustic Eximus02/05/2018

orks are narrowly postpubescent at 10 elves decidedly are not

new guy02/05/2018

elves take like 24 years iirc to properly mature yeah its interesting SadSuspenders02/05/2018

I'm going to take issue with a 10 year old elf A 10 year old ork? Maybe, but an elf? No Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

This is entering animu levels of shes actually 1,000 years old new guy02/05/2018

eh I don't have a issue with the base idea but people make it weird a lot of the time. Ill have some kids die on my table for physical jobs being 10 is out of it but I don't have issues with 10 year old wiz deckers because that is just kind of a thing in the setting SadSuspenders02/05/2018

But for a mage, ehhhhh new guy02/05/2018

mage it depends on when they awakened SadSuspenders02/05/2018

I don't know how a 10 year old is going to have 8 charisma Borogove (Fischer)02/05/2018

Puppy Eyes. new guy02/05/2018

Plenty of them can have force of personality Borogove (Fischer)02/05/2018

But Mooooooom new guy02/05/2018

what gets their social dice pools is being a kid that is some social penalties for sure what is weird is being black magic and 10 SadSuspenders02/05/2018

The Haven is set up for established runners who have proved themselves, I don't know how a 10 year old is going to do that Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

im perfectly willing to make her 16 SCKoNi02/05/2018

I'm gonna say it here new guy02/05/2018

there you go SCKoNi02/05/2018

if I need to RP some lecherous street ganger eyeing up a 10 year old ...-_-


new guy02/05/2018

gangers have families too SadSuspenders02/05/2018

18 please, that's all I ask, if we're going by Evo standards new guy02/05/2018

16 is fine imo but I dunno SadSuspenders02/05/2018

I'm going to say 18 new guy02/05/2018

Runners are a type of people that imo live hard and fast. most of them are out of the game by their 30s SCKoNi02/05/2018

can we just say, for the sake of sanity that all runners that join Haven are legally adults Slayer_Panda02/05/2018

16 could be explained as a fresh faced recruit who lived a hard life A la vietnam new guy02/05/2018

well so its weird and depends on the role and situation Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

this is a runner thing wierd is a monday new guy02/05/2018

deckers and technos are very likely to start young, and for a while a good chunk of them were just legit kids because people needed otakus back in the day SadSuspenders02/05/2018

But for a lot of them, the rest of the team never saw them, they will see the mage however Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

her role will be Face and Using her spirits for tasks. she was abandoned because she couldnt control them when she was emotional new guy02/05/2018

mages the real question is why you aren't in a wizgang tbh DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018

They are also a black mage, which is a pretty sleazy tradition, no offense. A 10 year old black mage is...a little bit creepy. No offense.

SadSuspenders02/05/2018

You're going to be facing some pretty horrid social modifers if you're 10 new guy02/05/2018

yeh to both of those for my opinions Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

no offense taken, she did what she had to to survive hence the tradition new guy02/05/2018

mages it depends on how much the runners need a mage if they don't have a choice kids are kind of a necessary evil because facing magic without magic can cause issues but idk SCKoNi02/05/2018

can we please not be seriously discussing a 10 year old character? new guy02/05/2018

Eh I mean its cyberpunk man SadSuspenders02/05/2018

Yeah, I'm going to go talk to council about age limits SCKoNi02/05/2018

sure its cyberpunk, we still don't allow Pregnant(edited) do you want to RP an abortion? new guy02/05/2018

I mean different thing first off SCKoNi02/05/2018

its about themes new guy02/05/2018

that is what is I believe called a strawman SadSuspenders02/05/2018

At the end of the day, I make the decision here, and I'm going to say no Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

if it makes ya'll uncomfortable itll be built into her backstory and she is 18 SCKoNi02/05/2018

it ain't a strawman, I'm just using hyperbole to make a point about relevenat themes on an LC new guy02/05/2018

I mean DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018

Please drop it guys new guy02/05/2018

it technically is but w/e Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

its no big deal sorry guys new guy02/05/2018

My opinion is simply that it fits thematically and that is about it DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018

It is okay Rain, thanks for asking new guy02/05/2018

up to players and gms on how it plays out. Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

wasnt trying to start shit i thought the character could be interesting DrBurst (Dani California)02/05/2018

Axiom, please, just leave it. It is fine, don't worry rain. Let's just move on. Rainofgore(TwoPly)02/05/2018

18 it is though thanks new guy02/05/2018

Guess you can't really have dissenting opinions on a hobby. Idk. Tired of that but dropping it.